In-House Episodes

In this episode, we chat with Jeremy Wilson about his experience in a number of transactional practice areas both in big law and in-house. Jeremy discusses how his MBA and training in leadership have informed his in-house practice, what he does to learn a new area of the law when switching jobs, and the variety of work (from corporate contracts, to privacy, to employment) he does in his current role at Fabletics. Jeremy also shares how his daily yoga practice helps him to be a creative legal thinker and how it has helped him handle challenging workplace dynamics. He is also a proud girl dad, and highlights why his definition of success changed when he had his daughter almost a year ago. Enjoy!

If you're interested in an in-house counsel role, this is the episode for you! Episode 72 features fellow podcaster and healthcare attorney, Stacy Rummel Bratcher. In this episode, we chat with Stacy about all things in-house counsel, including the importance of being a curious observer, learner, and detective, as well as why connecting with others is often more important than knowing the right answer in an in-house role. We also talk about how taking on debt to go to law school might influence your career down the line, why the first job you get doesn't have to pigeon hole you into a certain career path, and why authenticity when networking makes it more enjoyable. Of course, we also got to hear all about Stacy's wonderful podcast, The Legal Department, where she aims to deliver the bottom line of what busy in-house attorneys need to know to level up their careers.

Episode 71 features former professional baseball player and current Legal Director of US Regulatory at Uber, Jason Burch. In this episode, we chat with Jason about tuning into what makes you tick to find true happiness in your profession, as well as how he intentionally cultivates a more beautiful life by stretching himself to be a bit tired at the end of every day and a bit scared for the day ahead. We also talk about the importance of acting like a rocking chair (yes, you heard that right), picking up the phone, and avoiding loneliness in an in-house role. And we would be remiss if we didn’t mention our shared love for administrative law (we’ll forgive you if you don’t feel the same), and Jason’s incredible advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights as part of his service to the community. Enjoy!

In Episode 56, we speak with Lisa Haidostian, Senior Director of Healthcare Compliance at Walgreens in Chicago. Lisa discusses her journey to becoming a litigation partner at a large law firm and the significance of building genuine connections with colleagues and clients. We discuss Lisa's transition from big law to her in-house role at Walgreens, her thoughts on OCI interview strategies, and the evolving nature of boundaries in the legal profession.

On Episode 53 of Personal Jurisdiction, we chat with Andrew Herrington-Gilmore, Associate General Counsel of the Chicago Bulls. Andrew discusses why he decided to pursue transactional work, what an M&A deal actually looks like, the most important things an associate can do on a deal team, and why "becoming comfortable with the uncomfortable" is such a valuable skill. He shares how working at a large law firm provided him with foundational skills for moving in-house, the tools that helped him get to his dream job at the Chicago Bulls, and what the day-to-day looks like for a transactional lawyer in the sports world. Andrew also discusses his family life and why he founded the Gilmore Family Foundation, an organization to help support children with rare diseases. This episode is packed with advice for law students, young lawyers, partners, and in-house counsel--there is something for everyone!

In the second episode of Season 3, Allison and Hallie chat with Abimbola Oladokun, who is currently Lead Counsel of General Litigation at Meta (formerly known as Facebook). Abimbola shares her experience as a Black woman in big law, her non-linear path to Meta, and why she thinks it's important to like yourself and be who you are no matter what legal job you're in. Cheers to a wonderful conversation with a truly authentic guest!

What song describes your career? On Episode 22, we chat with David Dormon, General Counsel at Downtown Music Holdings. David takes us through his journey from corporate associate at two large law firms to the creative ways he was able to discover a career that combined his expertise in transactional work with his love of music.

Leaning into Liens? Join us for Episode 20(!) and our conversation with Emily Thomas, Senior Counsel at Hyatt Hotels Corporation. Emily shares how she decided that a transactional practice focused on real estate was the path for her, tells us about some of the interesting (and sometimes wonky) issues that come up in real estate deals, and offers insight into the importance of learning the hospitality industry once she went in-house at Hyatt. Join us for this discussion about another area of transactional law (and a few great property-related law jokes).

On Episode 17, we are joined by Chloe Rossen, Senior Counsel at Longroad Energy in the San Francisco Bay Area. Prior to her job at Longroad, Chloe was an associate at Mayer Brown in Chicago. On this episode, we chat with Chloe about how she decided to go into transactional work, why she decided to make the move from a large law firm to in-house counsel, why she is passionate about being a renewable energy lawyer, and more. Chloe is one of the first transactional lawyers we have had on the podcast, so we’re particularly excited to welcome her to the show!

On Episode 6 of Personal Jurisdiction, we speak to Amy Chapple, U.S. Commercial Brand Counsel at AbbVie. Amy demystifies the path from litigation associate to in-house counsel, shares the benefits of authentic networking, and describes her role in Diversity and Inclusion efforts at her former firm and in her current role. Don't miss this episode!